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Welcome to my website of Prophecy Studies - Daniel 11:40-45 & The Third Woe

Ezekiels Wheel within a Wheel 3 and 1 Charts
Kings-Prophets Chart
The 3rd Woe
9-11-2001
Side 1
7 Trumpets
3 Woes
Side 2

There is a question arisen that deserves a little careful consideration. The study contained in the references below is done in a question answer format to aid in the amplifying of certain points. It should be easy to see the truth as I have given quote after quote to make this subject easy to see and understand.

                       

What is the time of Rev 18:1-5 arrival?

In the passages below we are going attempt to pinpoint exactly the time and place that the angel of Revelation comes down according to the spirit of prophecy. We will use the phrases below underlined and in yellow and do word searches to discern what time and place is being discussed. We will also employ a question answer format to be able to give greater clarity on the subjects considered.

Revelation 18:1-5   

1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

 

           

           

Satan is constantly seeking to cast his hellish shadow about these messages, so that the remnant people of God shall not clearly discern their import--their time and place--but they live, and are to exert their power upon our religious experience while time shall last{3SM 405.2}

           


We are going to try to attempt to clarify the time of this quote using the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy          

"Now comes the word that I have declared that New York is to be swept away by a tidal wave. This I have never said. I have said, as I looked at the great buildings going up there, story after story: 'What terrible scenes will take place when the Lord shall arise to shake terribly the earth! Then the words of Revelation 18:1-3 will be fulfilled.' The whole of the eighteenth chapter of Revelation is a warning of what is coming on the earth. But I have no light in particular in regard to what is coming on New York, only I know that one day the great buildings there will be thrown down by the turning and overturning of God's power. From the light given me, I know that destruction is in the world. One word from the Lord, one touch of His mighty power, and these massive structures will fall. Scenes will take place the fearfulness of which we cannot imagine." {LS 411.5}

           

Isaiah 2:19-21 – Is talking about the same time period. Notice the reference to gold and silver being worthless (Isaiah 2:20, Daniel 11:43, Revelation 18) And the phrase “when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth” is mentioned twice (Isaiah vs. 19 & 21) just like the verse in Revelation 18:2 “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen” The Second Angels Message is mentioned twice.

19And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

20In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;

21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

           

Mrs. White could you please tell us when exactly Lord shall arise to shake terribly the earth! 

"Never did this message apply with greater force than it applies today. More and more the world is setting at nought the claims of God. Men have become bold in transgression. The wickedness of the inhabitants of the world has almost filled up the measure of their iniquity. This earth has almost reached the place where God will permit the destroyer to work his will upon it. The substitution of the laws of men for the law of God, the exaltation, by merely human authority, of Sunday in place of the Bible Sabbath, is the last act in the drama. When this substitution becomes universal, God will reveal Himself. He will arise in His majesty to shake terribly the earth. He will come out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the world for their iniquity, and the earth shall disclose her blood and shall no more cover her slain. {7T 141.1}

           

     The substitution of the false for the true is the last act in the drama. When this substitution becomes universal, God will reveal Himself. When the laws of men are exalted above the laws of God, when the powers of this earth try to force men to keep the first day of the week, know that the time has come for God to work. He will arise in His majesty, and will shake terribly the earth. He will come out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the world for their iniquity. The earth shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.  {Mar 262.5} 

           

Thank you for clarifying this Mrs. White could you please tell us and shed additional light on what Gods plan is and who we should be in earnest sharing the gospel message to before the Sunday law time period “when the Lord shall arise to shake terribly the earth.”

In the Power of the Spirit

     The Lord lives and reigns. Soon he will arise in majesty to shake terribly the earth. A special message is now to be borne,--a message that will pierce the spiritual darkness, and convict and convert souls. "Haste thee, flee for thy life," is the call to be given to those dwelling in sin. We must now be terribly in earnest. We have not a moment to spend in criticism and accusation. Let those who have done this in the past fall on their knees in prayer; and let them beware how they place their words and their plans in the place of God's words and his plans. Hundreds are waiting for the warning to escape for their life, and lay hold on the hope set before them in the gospel. Far less labor is to be given to those who know the truth, and far more to those who are without God and without hope in the world.  {RH, March 3, 1903 par. 5} 

           

So what is our personal work for this time could you tell us please.

    This world is our school--a school of discipline and training. We are placed here to form characters like the character of Christ, and to acquire the habits and the language of the higher life. Influences opposed to good, abound on every side. The developments of sin are becoming so full, so deep, so abhorrent to God, that soon He will arise in majesty to shake terribly the earth. So artful are the plans of the enemy, so specious the complications that he brings about, that those who are weak in the faith cannot discern his deceptions. They fall into the snares prepared by Satan, who works through human instrumentalities to deceive if possible the very elect. Only those who are closely connected with God will be able to discern the falsehoods and the intrigues of the enemy.  {20MR 154.1} 

           

OK Then . . . Mrs. White could you please tell us when “Babylon falls” and when “she makes all nations drink the wine of the wrath of her fornication”. Who are the churches being referred to?

 

     The second angel's message of Revelation 14 was first preached in the summer of 1844, and it then had a more direct application to the churches of the United States, where the warning of the judgment had been most widely proclaimed and most generally rejected, and where the declension in the churches had been most rapid. But the message of the second angel did not reach its complete fulfillment in 1844. The churches then experienced a moral fall, in consequence of their refusal of the light of the advent message; but that fall was not complete. As they have continued to reject the special truths for this time they have fallen lower and lower. Not yet, however, can it be said that "Babylon is fallen,... because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." She has not yet made all nations do this. The spirit of world conforming and indifference to the testing truths for our time exists and has been gaining ground in churches of the Protestant faith in all the countries of Christendom; and these churches are included in the solemn and terrible denunciation of the second angel. But the work of apostasy has not yet reached its culmination.  {GC 389.2} 

     The Bible declares that before the coming of the Lord, Satan will work "with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness;" and they that "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved," will be left to receive "strong delusion, that they should believe a lie." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11. Not until this condition shall be reached, and the union of the church with the world shall be fully accomplished throughout Christendom, will the fall of Babylon be complete. The change is a progressive one, and the perfect fulfillment of Revelation 14:8 is yet future.  {GC 389.3}

 

           


Thank you Mrs. White it sounds like all these verses converge on a single “Hour” the Sunday Law

Not yet, however, can it be said that "Babylon is fallen, . . . because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." She has not yet made all nations do this. . . . The work of apostasy has not yet reached its  culmination.  {FLB 285.2}      

 

                       

Babylon’s Fall Not Yet Complete


Babylon’s Fall Not Yet Complete---“She made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication” (Revelation 14:6-8). How is this done? By forcing men to accept a spurious sabbath.—Testimonies for the Church 8T94 (1904) {8T 94}

 

           


     Solemn Warnings Stir Thousands.--Men of faith and prayer will be constrained to go forth with holy zeal, declaring the words which God gives them. The sins of Babylon will be laid open. The fearful results of enforcing the observances of the church by civil authority, the inroads of Spiritualism, the stealthy but rapid progress of the papal power,--all will be unmasked. By these solemn warnings the people will be stirred. Thousands upon thousands will listen who have never heard words like these. In amazement they hear the testimony that Babylon is the church, fallen because of her errors and sins, because of her rejection of the truth sent to her from heaven.--The Great Controversy, pp. 606, 607. (1888)  {Ev 43.4} 

           

 

Could you please tell us when the whole earth will be lightened with the glory of the Lord?

"When the storm of persecution really breaks upon us, ... then will the message of the third angel swell to a loud cry, and the whole earth will be lightened with the glory of the Lord.—Testimonies for the Church 6T401 (1900). {6T 401}"

           

     Many Backsliders Will Return.--When the storm of persecution really breaks upon us, the true sheep will hear the true Shepherd's voice. Self-denying efforts will be put forth to save the lost, and many who have strayed from the fold will come back to follow the great Shepherd. The people of God will draw  together, and present to the enemy a united front. . . . The love of Christ, the love of our brethren, will testify to the world that we have been with Jesus and learned of Him. Then will the message of the third angel swell to a loud cry, and the whole earth will be lightened with the glory of the Lord.--Testimonies, vol. 6, p. 401. (1900)  {Ev 693.2}

           

All the prophets are telling the same story we see the same reference to silver and gold as we saw in Isaiah . . .

Zephaniah 1

14The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

16A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.

18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

 

Before the Sunday Law “decree” the people of God draw together just as the quote above 6T 401

Zephaniah 2

1Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired;

2Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD's anger come upon you.

             

 

Those who have dwelt mostly upon the prophecies and the theoretical points of our faith should without delay become Bible students upon PRACTICAL subjects. They should take a deeper draft at the fountain of divine truth. They should carefully study the life of Christ and His lessons of practical godliness, given for the benefit of all and to be the rule of right living for all who should believe on His name. They should be imbued with the spirit of their great Exemplar and have a high sense of the sacred life of a follower of Christ.  {3T 214.1} 

                       


     Thus will the truth be brought into PRACTICAL life, and thus will be answered the prayer of Christ, uttered just before His humiliation and death: "That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, art in Me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in Us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent Me." John 17:21. The love of Christ, the love of our brethren, will testify to the world that we have been with Jesus and learned of Him. Then will the message of the third angel swell to a loud cry, and the whole earth will be lightened with the glory of the Lord.

           


Mrs White it sounds like you are repeating the messages of the ancient prophets. So Gods people are to come together in unity on the eternal platform together and then the whole earth will be lightened with the glory of the Lord. What is the eternal platform?


     God is leading a people out from the world upon the exalted platform of eternal truth, the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. He will discipline and fit up His people. They will not be at variance, one believing one thing, and another having faith and views entirely opposite, each moving independently of the body. Through the diversity of the gifts and governments that He has placed in the church, they will all come to the unity of the faith. If one man takes his views of Bible truth without regard to the opinions of his brethren, and justifies his course, alleging that he has a right to his own peculiar views, and then presses them upon others, how can he be fulfilling the prayer of Christ? And if another and still another arises, each asserting his right to believe and talk what he pleases without reference to the faith of the body, where will be that harmony which existed between Christ and His Father, and which Christ prayed might exist among His brethren?  {3T 446.3} 

     God is leading out a people and establishing them upon the one great platform of faith, the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus. He has given His people a straight chain of Bible truth, clear and connected. This truth is of heavenly origin and has been searched for as for hidden treasure. It has been dug out through careful searching of the Scriptures and through much prayer.  {3T 447.1} 

 

           

 

Hmmmm . . .  this sounds familiar


Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 – The eternal platform 1st, 2nd and 3rd Angels Messages

13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God(1AM), and keep his commandments(2AM): for this is the whole duty of man.

14For God shall bring every work into judgment(3AM), with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Revelation 14:6-7 – The eternal platform 1st, 2nd,  3rd and 4th Angels Messages

6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God(1AM), and give glory to him(2AM); for the hour of his judgment is come(3AM): and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters(4AM).

           


Mrs. White, This is so clear it is the everlasting gospel and the 4th message is directly referencing the Sabbath. Can you tell us the work that is done once the people of God join together on the eternal platform please?


     Exalt the Sabbath.--Our publishing institutions are to exalt the claims of God's downtrodden law. Standing before the world as reformers, they are to show that the law of God is the foundation of all enduring reform. In clear, distinct lines they are to present the necessity of obedience to all His commandments. Constrained by the love of Christ, they are to co-operate with Him in building up the old waste places, raising up the foundations of many generations. They are to stand as repairers of the breach, restorers of paths to dwell in. Through their testimony the Sabbath of the fourth commandment is to stand as a witness, a constant reminder of God, to attract notice and arouse investigation that shall direct the minds of men to their Creator.  {CW 179.1} 

She ties this work directly with the 4 Messages, She continues . . .

     Herald the Three Angels' Messages.--Let it never be forgotten that these institutions are to cooperate with the ministry of the delegates of heaven. They are among the agencies represented by the angel flying "in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come." Revelation 14:6, 7.  {CW 179.2} 

     From them is to go forth the terrible denunciation, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Revelation 14:8.  {CW 179.3} 

     They are represented by the third angel that followed, "saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God." Revelation 14:9, 10.-- Testimonies, Vol. 7, pp. 138-140. (1902.)  {CW 180.1} 

           


Isaiah says the same thing:

Isaiah 58:12-15

12And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

13If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

14Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

 

           


Mrs. White you have given us much to consider and tied many beautiful lines of truth together please tell us when do her sins reach to heaven. . .


"When do her sins reach unto heaven [Revelation 18:2-5 quoted]? When the law of God is finally made void by legislation.The Signs of the Times, June 12, 1893."

           


Please tell us more Sister White about that time . . .


    After the truth has been proclaimed as a witness to all nations, every conceivable power of evil will be set in operation, and minds will be confused by many voices crying, "Lo, here is Christ, Lo, He is there. This is the truth, I have the message from God, He has sent me with great light." Then there will be a removing of the landmarks, and an attempt to tear down the pillars of our faith. A more decided effort will be made to exalt the false sabbath, and to cast contempt upon God Himself by supplanting the day He has blessed and sanctified. This false sabbath is to be enforced by an oppressive law. . . . But while Satan works with his lying wonders, the time will be fulfilled foretold in the Revelation, and the mighty angel that shall lighten the earth with his glory, will proclaim the fall of Babylon, and call upon God's people to forsake her.  {Mar 189.4} 

     When do her sins reach unto heaven? When the law of God is finally made void by legislation. Then the extremity of God's people is His opportunity to show who is the governor of heaven and earth. As a Satanic power is stirring up the elements from beneath, God will send light and power to His people, that the message of truth may be proclaimed to all the world.  {Mar 189.5} 

           


Mrs. White it sounds like you have pinpointed the time when the Angel of Revelation 18 comes down. Does power come into the message to prepare Gods people before that?

     I saw angels hurrying to and fro in heaven, descending to the earth, and again ascending to heaven, preparing for the fulfillment of some important event. Then I saw another mighty angel commissioned to descend to the earth, to unite his voice with the third angel, and give power and force to his message. Great power and glory were imparted to the angel, and as he descended, the earth was lightened with his glory. The light which attended this angel penetrated everywhere, as he cried mightily, with a strong voice, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel, is repeated, with the additional mention of the corruptions which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time to join in the last great work of the third angel's message as it swells to a loud cry. And the people of God are thus prepared to stand in the hour of temptation, which they are soon to meet. I saw a great light resting upon them, and they united to fearlessly proclaim the third angel's message.  {EW 277.1}

           


Here is the same quote worded a little different . . .


     I saw angels hurrying to and fro in heaven. They were descending to earth, and again ascending to heaven, preparing for the fulfillment of some important event. Then I saw another mighty angel commissioned to descend to earth, and unite his voice with the third angel, and give power and force to his message. Great power and glory were imparted to the angel, and as he descended, the earth was lightened with his glory. The light which went before and followed after this angel, penetrated every where, as he cried mightily, with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel, is again given, with the addition of the corruptions which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time, and joins in the last great work of the third angel's message, as it swells into a loud cry. And the people of God are fitted up every where to stand in the hour of temptation which they are soon to meet. I saw a great light resting upon them, and they united in the message, and fearlessly proclaimed with great power the third angel's message.  {1SG 193.2} 

     Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven, and I heard voices which seemed to sound every where, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues; for her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. This message seemed to be an addition to the third message, and joined it, as the midnight cry joined the second angel's message in 1844. The glory of God rested upon the patient, waiting saints, and they fearlessly gave the last solemn warning, proclaiming the fall of Babylon, and calling upon God's people to come out of her; that they might escape her fearful doom.  {1SG 194.1} 

     The light that was shed upon the waiting ones penetrated every where, and those who had any light in the churches, who had not heard and rejected the three messages, answered to the call, and left the fallen churches. {1SG 194.2} 

           


Mrs. White I love the way you tie the messages in such a way as we have never considered the three messages are simply a reference to the three fold work of the Holy Spirit


John 16:8
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

           


How we can be made righteous – The righteousness of Christ


Micah 7:9
I will bear the indignation of the LORD, because I have sinned against him, until he plead my cause, and execute judgment for me: he will bring me forth to the light, and I shall behold his righteousness.

           


It is our view based on these simple statements that the Angel of Revelation 18 comes down at the Sunday Law. We will in the coming weeks offer similar studies that contain Bible and Spirit of Prophecy on such important subjects such as, The Judgment of the Living, The Blotting out and The Sealing. We are now engaging in exhaustive study to discern and clarify what the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy has to say on such subjects. So far from a preliminary study  we are coming to the conclusion that the majority if not all the prophecies converge at the Sunday Law. This is just an initial assessment and needs to be studied out and clarified. We still support the view of Daniel 11:40-45, the third woe and seventh trumpet. We will begin to make corrections to our web site based on this study over the next few months. We will be reviewing some of these finer points and putting them through the test of the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy more deeply than ever in an honest assessment to discern the truth.


The worldwide Sunday Law is coming! According to the Bible and The Great Controversey the Sunday Law begins in America - The Mark of the Beast. It is a very serious life or death message just as in Noah's day. All the world is soon to wander after the beast and reject the 4th commandment the Sabbath (Rev 13:10-18). Sundown Fiday to sundown Saturday is the Sabbath of the 7th day. (Exodus 20:8-11,31:13, Deuteronomy 5:12-15, Isaiah 56:2, Ezekiel 20:12,20, Jeremiah 17:22-24, Leviticus 23:32, Mark 1:32).
I then saw the third angel. Said my accompanying angel, "Fearful is his work. Awful is his mission. He is the angel that is to select the wheat from the tares, and seal, or bind, the wheat for the heavenly garner. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention." {EW 118.1}

The Three Angels Messages sequence duplicates itself over and over again in Gods word and is also found in Daniel 11:40-45. It helps to unlock many of the deep mysteries of scripture. The bible has many alegories and parables all relating to the time of the end.